You diagnosed the problems very well. With the Spanish example, you showed how painfully short the turn to the right could be. However, the proposed solutions are inadequate. The key to any society is the dominant culture, its masters and gatekeepers. In Western countries, they can be found in media, in the middle and high managerial class, but the priests and temples are in the education and academic system. Its belief system is composed of a set of ideas. How do you fight an idea? The idea can be defeated only by another idea. How to do it? The same way they did it when they were victorious over an older set of ideas. They were victorious partly because the old ideas were suited for kings, nobility, knights, and peasants rather than for an ever-expanding world with explorers, merchants, manufacturers, and people who could read. We still live in the upgraded version of that world for the most part, so ideas hold. But, we also live in a world that is in transition; to what, we still don't know. Changes and contradictions are increasing daily, and the next set of changes will be profound because we can sense a perfect storm of pressures and stressors forming on the horizon. Only then we'll have a new world with a new dominant culture after the current transition is complete.
Iranian cities were mainly modern. The conservative parts of Iranian society were mullahs, the countryside, and the peasantry. Surely, the percentage of people living in cities has increased in the last 50 years in that country, so one can expect an increased potential for change.
That map is absolutely sublime! Right up my alley, considering my proclivity to compare both the USSR (unfavourably) and Juche Korea (rather favourably) to the religiosity of Wahhabi Islam. It has to be kept in mind that Tunisia is Europe (more European than the Ukraine), whereas Morocco & Algeria are fake Arabs - which doesn't mean they're gay (aside from their gay king and gay commies respectively), but it could also blossom into a kind of Berber nationalism.
But the heartland of the Arab world is the fertile crescent of Egypt - Syria - Iraq, and that seems to hold fairly well. Egypt indeed acted as a confluence of Arab nationalism, until their final submission to the Saudi-Israeli axis in 1979. And with the current demographic explosion of Egypt, I could see a future where its young people are subsumed by more violent ideologies. Case in point - ISIS (again, the feature of Islam is that a large percentage of the population are ready to kill and die, unlike the "right-wingers" of Russia or Utah.)
Regarding China - the greatest argument against the PRC would be the fact that princess Xi Mingze lives in America. Whereas your points all seem rather weak - isn't it the consensus view that the Americans gave Chiang Kai-Shek massive amounts of weaponry and money that were lost in corruption? And after Chiang's defeat, it only made geopolitical sense in the Cold War to support Mao Zedong against Soviet Russia - nobody cares about the useless little RoC at that point.
Regarding the later connection of China coupled with the deindustrialisation of America - that's the suicidal nature of Christian capitalists. I would choose to believe the most widely-held view - that the Westerners tried to corrupt China into globohomo with their warm embrace strategy. After all, that's what worked for Soviet Russia. Hasn't worked for China.
(And no, the Corvid argument does not cut it - the famous response to the plague is in the natural interest of any state on the planet, the synchronicity is not an argument for a world government's existence.)
Finally, regarding the solutions. I would view the nexus of germinating future ideologies in the community of... hateful incels. This is a nascent perfect storm, covering some of the most essential dogmas of neo-Christianity such as sexual equality and non-violence. And normies are only going to swell the incel ranks. KHHV is the Marxism of tomorrow! (Andrew Tate approves, Kynosarges applauds.)
Typos: to solve for; small minded; Rothschild owned; to to frame; want now want; it’s ability; the Rockefeller's.
P.S. I have to add a few words on Iran - their society looks ridiculously ripe for the picking. And yet, your focus on the banks is blinding you to that fact. Why not pick up Türkiye? Doesn't their recent genocide of Armenians win them a few points in your book? Or their ban on gay parades in Constantinople? Or take Pakistan (another country that rejects the existence of Armenia btw) - their government may cuck in, yet their citizens seem to have hearts of a lion.
> A Barelvi mosque was built in 2014 in Islamabad named after Mumtaz Qadri, who assassinated the Punjab governor Salman Taseer for defending Noreen. Qadri was convicted by the Islamabad High Court, sentenced to death and hanged in February 2016.
> The general population was less sympathetic towards Noreen. Several signs were erected in Sheikhupura and other rural areas declaring support for the blasphemy laws, including one that called for Noreen to be beheaded. Mohammad Saleem, a member of the Jamiat Ulema-e-Pakistan party, organized a demonstration in Rawalpindi and led a small crowd chanting, "Hang her, hang her." In December 2010, a month after Noreen's conviction, Maulana Yousaf Qureshi, the Muslim cleric of the Mohabaat Khan Mosque in Peshawar, announced a Rs. 500000 (US$1,700) Pakistani rupee bounty to anyone who would kill her. One survey reported that around 10 million Pakistanis had said that they would be willing to personally kill her out of either religious conviction or for the reward.
Let alone the Rohingya genocide at the hands of mindful Buddhist Burmese, or the current civil war in the Sudan! Those are examples of a real fight against Christianity! Not money-grubbing central bank accounting.
Hi Adunai, the incel community is certainly the one with the lowest status and largest psychological pain of any group, so I could see them potentially germinating anti-globalist ideologies. However, as the genetic detritus of society they don't procreate, their influence outside their little bubble is negligible, so they may end up extinct like another community that refused to procreate like the Shakers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakers
Re: Turkey, although Erdogan is a strongman and they're at the intersection of the Islamic and European worlds, which gives them a degree of leverage, I don't really see them doing anything special with it. Their fertility rate is 2.08 (https://www.statista.com/statistics/1069261/fertility-rate-turkey-1900-2020/ ) and their leaders seem more interested in familial graft and crushing Gulenists than anything else.
Re: Pakistan, you are correct that their population's aggression levels are off the chart, but Imran Khan was overthrown by globohomo (probably for being pro-Russia: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/pakistani-premier-hits-out-western-envoys-joint-letter-russia-2022-03-06/ ), then criminally prosecuted, proving it is a globohomo puppet state, he even survived a recent assassination attempt. The country is quite poor and their fertility is falling too. I just don't think they're very interesting.
Re: Iran, what signs do you see that make it look ripe for the plucking? There will always be Tehran and various minority groups that the CIA finds easy to rile up for rebellion, but the Mullahs have done a good job of quashing it so far. But their collapsed fertility rate is interesting.
Define "genetic detritus". You surely aren't claiming the incels to be unworthy of procreation? If so, you clearly have put little thought to it.
Why would the globohomo give its flunkey* nuclear weapons, however? It's not like they are sure not a single terrorist group will ever seize power in Pakistan.
Iran is a multicultural chimaera, with 20% of its population being outright Kurds and Turks. It has had revolts every 2-3 years over the past decade. It has terror bombings in Baluchistan. It has a sizable émigré community at the globohomo's back and call. And from my limited personal research, their propaganda seems rather weak - I tried to look for any pro-Iranian songs, finding absolutely nothing (aside from literally 2-3 nohas by Hossein Taheri). Compare that to Juche Korea's thousands of songs, sung by both males and females, with new ones constantly coming out, and all without exception employing native video editing and cultural imagery.
Of course, if we're on this topic, I wouldn't put the DPRK's foreign propaganda value anywhere high, for it is an ethnostate for Koreans by Koreans. It might only come to play in two fairly fantastical scenarios only:
1) a civil war in China, with the DPRK conquering Manchuria/Liaodong;
2) as an intermediary between China and Japan in the case of America's collapse.
* Yes, it's a real word, Northern Korean English is full of archaic gemstones (hotel-cum-restaurant being another one).
Hi Adunai, incel = involuntary celibate. There are plenty of volcels, but that is a different term. I am using "genetic detritus" in the context of female hypergamy: https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.1J6tKdSi80n0JB7om5h4FgHaGL?pid=ImgDet&rs=1 . Under female hypergamy, which is highly encouraged today, only the top 20-30% of men get any attention from women at all. Daddy Government has replaced the role of most beta male providers for women. So if men are *involuntarily* celibate, Daddy Government provides for women via endless welfare, and women all go for the same top level of men, how would you describe these men as anything other than "genetic detritus" currently? It also brings to mind the old phrase "women are perishable, men are expendable"...
Re: nukes, they seem easy to proliferate. North Korea has them, Saudi could develop them quickly if they wanted (or buy them from Pakistan), Iran has them (I assume), Japan has only political, not technical, reasons why they don't have them, Syria and Iraq were well on their way to them before they were bombed by Israel, etc.
Re: NK, I do find them to be a very interesting country, and my understanding of it is only from western propaganda which is likely false (i.e. its people are regularly starving, they are super unhappy and always trying to escape to South Korea, etc). What made you interested in them and where are you learning about them?
Yes, you have correctly described the major dogmas of the Incel Theory, my question was mainly to inquire whether you acknowledge the artificial, modern nature of the incel problem. After all, there is some truth to how female liberation has given the females the power to choose their suitors, and how there's a certain genetic component to it. There's clearly sexual selection at work, although I'm not sure to what extent it is eugenic and/or dysgenic. Some may wax poetic about how female mind has not been molded by evolution during the civilisational stage of human history. What is certain, however, is that all traditional societies used to employ arranged marriage, hence the vast majority of those who become incel today would not have done so in the past.
Juche Korea is many things to me. Back in 2014, when I saw the video Humans Need Not Apply (about technological singularity), my youthful mind instantly went to the DPRK as an example of a country that would totally know how to deal with it. It's as if I instinctively relegate to them a role of the seat of intelligence on the planet, a true subject of history.
Of course, to the normies, Korea is literally Hitler. And they are right, Pyongyang seems to be the polar opposite of Jerusalem. Collectivism, militarism, totalitarianism, fanaticism... All forces focused on survival through the worship of their racial blood. I tend to compare them to the zealotry of worldwide Wahhabi Islam compressed into a neutron star of 25 mil. people. Another comparison would be an ennobled remnant of the Japanese Empire - I wouldn't say that to the Koreans themselves, of course, for their entire foundation is built on the tales of anti-Japanese struggle. But that is my impression - a far cry from calling it "Stalinist". (Although to be fair, the Jap songs seem to sound fairly unassuming, their military marches rather bland.)
According to their legend, Kim Jong Il was born on Paektusan, and Kim Il Sung liberated Korea in August 1945 with barely any outside help. Of course, if we're talking real history, the establishment of the DPRK is a fluke of history. Korea itself had long been lost, and lone zealots such as Kim Il Sung were an exception. It's a complicated tale - on the one hand, the Mongoloid race seemed to be at its peak in the Empire of Japan; on the other, it was thanks to the fight without hope in the frozen wilderness of Manchuria that the flame of Korea persisted long enough to be reborn, under the right conditions.
Finally, one should not forget racism. West and South Asians are ultimately swarthy savages mixed with neo-Christcucks. The rightful inheritor of the Aryan race ought to be the Mongoloids. Sure, they were on the brink of extinction once (and Japan will be known as East Korea some day), but both Korea and China have demonstrated miracles of survival through overcoming their weakness. The Meiji Restoration, the Cultural Revolution, the Kim Il Sung idea - all have achieved more spectacular feats than either the Anglo, Hitler or Marxism - which in every case failed to cast away the burden of the past (namely, German aggressiveness and Russian cultural capitulation). And the Koreans have successfully managed to pass their culture down the generations. Their meagre air force is best used as the fighters of culture war, and that's more important than Marxists may think.
Regarding your remark - I have no idea how Westerners can make up such stupid arguments (another being that Korea survived the 1990s due to [non-existent in reality] Chinese aid). The emigration rate from the southern region of the DPRK is orders of magnitude higher than from the norther part. And regarding gathering information - I sometimes watch propaganda via Phuong DPRK on YouTube, and used to listen to Andrei Lankov, a Russian Anglophone with soulless, beady eyes of a Marxist (he's likely factually correct, however).
You diagnosed the problems very well. With the Spanish example, you showed how painfully short the turn to the right could be. However, the proposed solutions are inadequate. The key to any society is the dominant culture, its masters and gatekeepers. In Western countries, they can be found in media, in the middle and high managerial class, but the priests and temples are in the education and academic system. Its belief system is composed of a set of ideas. How do you fight an idea? The idea can be defeated only by another idea. How to do it? The same way they did it when they were victorious over an older set of ideas. They were victorious partly because the old ideas were suited for kings, nobility, knights, and peasants rather than for an ever-expanding world with explorers, merchants, manufacturers, and people who could read. We still live in the upgraded version of that world for the most part, so ideas hold. But, we also live in a world that is in transition; to what, we still don't know. Changes and contradictions are increasing daily, and the next set of changes will be profound because we can sense a perfect storm of pressures and stressors forming on the horizon. Only then we'll have a new world with a new dominant culture after the current transition is complete.
Iranian cities were mainly modern. The conservative parts of Iranian society were mullahs, the countryside, and the peasantry. Surely, the percentage of people living in cities has increased in the last 50 years in that country, so one can expect an increased potential for change.
That map is absolutely sublime! Right up my alley, considering my proclivity to compare both the USSR (unfavourably) and Juche Korea (rather favourably) to the religiosity of Wahhabi Islam. It has to be kept in mind that Tunisia is Europe (more European than the Ukraine), whereas Morocco & Algeria are fake Arabs - which doesn't mean they're gay (aside from their gay king and gay commies respectively), but it could also blossom into a kind of Berber nationalism.
But the heartland of the Arab world is the fertile crescent of Egypt - Syria - Iraq, and that seems to hold fairly well. Egypt indeed acted as a confluence of Arab nationalism, until their final submission to the Saudi-Israeli axis in 1979. And with the current demographic explosion of Egypt, I could see a future where its young people are subsumed by more violent ideologies. Case in point - ISIS (again, the feature of Islam is that a large percentage of the population are ready to kill and die, unlike the "right-wingers" of Russia or Utah.)
Regarding China - the greatest argument against the PRC would be the fact that princess Xi Mingze lives in America. Whereas your points all seem rather weak - isn't it the consensus view that the Americans gave Chiang Kai-Shek massive amounts of weaponry and money that were lost in corruption? And after Chiang's defeat, it only made geopolitical sense in the Cold War to support Mao Zedong against Soviet Russia - nobody cares about the useless little RoC at that point.
Regarding the later connection of China coupled with the deindustrialisation of America - that's the suicidal nature of Christian capitalists. I would choose to believe the most widely-held view - that the Westerners tried to corrupt China into globohomo with their warm embrace strategy. After all, that's what worked for Soviet Russia. Hasn't worked for China.
(And no, the Corvid argument does not cut it - the famous response to the plague is in the natural interest of any state on the planet, the synchronicity is not an argument for a world government's existence.)
Finally, regarding the solutions. I would view the nexus of germinating future ideologies in the community of... hateful incels. This is a nascent perfect storm, covering some of the most essential dogmas of neo-Christianity such as sexual equality and non-violence. And normies are only going to swell the incel ranks. KHHV is the Marxism of tomorrow! (Andrew Tate approves, Kynosarges applauds.)
https://incels.wiki/w/Demographics_of_inceldom
Typos: to solve for; small minded; Rothschild owned; to to frame; want now want; it’s ability; the Rockefeller's.
P.S. I have to add a few words on Iran - their society looks ridiculously ripe for the picking. And yet, your focus on the banks is blinding you to that fact. Why not pick up Türkiye? Doesn't their recent genocide of Armenians win them a few points in your book? Or their ban on gay parades in Constantinople? Or take Pakistan (another country that rejects the existence of Armenia btw) - their government may cuck in, yet their citizens seem to have hearts of a lion.
> A Barelvi mosque was built in 2014 in Islamabad named after Mumtaz Qadri, who assassinated the Punjab governor Salman Taseer for defending Noreen. Qadri was convicted by the Islamabad High Court, sentenced to death and hanged in February 2016.
> The general population was less sympathetic towards Noreen. Several signs were erected in Sheikhupura and other rural areas declaring support for the blasphemy laws, including one that called for Noreen to be beheaded. Mohammad Saleem, a member of the Jamiat Ulema-e-Pakistan party, organized a demonstration in Rawalpindi and led a small crowd chanting, "Hang her, hang her." In December 2010, a month after Noreen's conviction, Maulana Yousaf Qureshi, the Muslim cleric of the Mohabaat Khan Mosque in Peshawar, announced a Rs. 500000 (US$1,700) Pakistani rupee bounty to anyone who would kill her. One survey reported that around 10 million Pakistanis had said that they would be willing to personally kill her out of either religious conviction or for the reward.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia_Bibi_blasphemy_case?useskin=vector
Let alone the Rohingya genocide at the hands of mindful Buddhist Burmese, or the current civil war in the Sudan! Those are examples of a real fight against Christianity! Not money-grubbing central bank accounting.
Hi Adunai, the incel community is certainly the one with the lowest status and largest psychological pain of any group, so I could see them potentially germinating anti-globalist ideologies. However, as the genetic detritus of society they don't procreate, their influence outside their little bubble is negligible, so they may end up extinct like another community that refused to procreate like the Shakers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakers
Re: Turkey, although Erdogan is a strongman and they're at the intersection of the Islamic and European worlds, which gives them a degree of leverage, I don't really see them doing anything special with it. Their fertility rate is 2.08 (https://www.statista.com/statistics/1069261/fertility-rate-turkey-1900-2020/ ) and their leaders seem more interested in familial graft and crushing Gulenists than anything else.
Re: Pakistan, you are correct that their population's aggression levels are off the chart, but Imran Khan was overthrown by globohomo (probably for being pro-Russia: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/pakistani-premier-hits-out-western-envoys-joint-letter-russia-2022-03-06/ ), then criminally prosecuted, proving it is a globohomo puppet state, he even survived a recent assassination attempt. The country is quite poor and their fertility is falling too. I just don't think they're very interesting.
Re: Iran, what signs do you see that make it look ripe for the plucking? There will always be Tehran and various minority groups that the CIA finds easy to rile up for rebellion, but the Mullahs have done a good job of quashing it so far. But their collapsed fertility rate is interesting.
...And now Pakistan has been engulfed in a series of ISIS-inspired protests over the Imran Khan incident.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/salafi-jihadi-movement-update-special-edition-protests-pakistan-may-9-2023
Define "genetic detritus". You surely aren't claiming the incels to be unworthy of procreation? If so, you clearly have put little thought to it.
Why would the globohomo give its flunkey* nuclear weapons, however? It's not like they are sure not a single terrorist group will ever seize power in Pakistan.
Iran is a multicultural chimaera, with 20% of its population being outright Kurds and Turks. It has had revolts every 2-3 years over the past decade. It has terror bombings in Baluchistan. It has a sizable émigré community at the globohomo's back and call. And from my limited personal research, their propaganda seems rather weak - I tried to look for any pro-Iranian songs, finding absolutely nothing (aside from literally 2-3 nohas by Hossein Taheri). Compare that to Juche Korea's thousands of songs, sung by both males and females, with new ones constantly coming out, and all without exception employing native video editing and cultural imagery.
Of course, if we're on this topic, I wouldn't put the DPRK's foreign propaganda value anywhere high, for it is an ethnostate for Koreans by Koreans. It might only come to play in two fairly fantastical scenarios only:
1) a civil war in China, with the DPRK conquering Manchuria/Liaodong;
2) as an intermediary between China and Japan in the case of America's collapse.
* Yes, it's a real word, Northern Korean English is full of archaic gemstones (hotel-cum-restaurant being another one).
Hi Adunai, incel = involuntary celibate. There are plenty of volcels, but that is a different term. I am using "genetic detritus" in the context of female hypergamy: https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.1J6tKdSi80n0JB7om5h4FgHaGL?pid=ImgDet&rs=1 . Under female hypergamy, which is highly encouraged today, only the top 20-30% of men get any attention from women at all. Daddy Government has replaced the role of most beta male providers for women. So if men are *involuntarily* celibate, Daddy Government provides for women via endless welfare, and women all go for the same top level of men, how would you describe these men as anything other than "genetic detritus" currently? It also brings to mind the old phrase "women are perishable, men are expendable"...
Re: nukes, they seem easy to proliferate. North Korea has them, Saudi could develop them quickly if they wanted (or buy them from Pakistan), Iran has them (I assume), Japan has only political, not technical, reasons why they don't have them, Syria and Iraq were well on their way to them before they were bombed by Israel, etc.
Re: NK, I do find them to be a very interesting country, and my understanding of it is only from western propaganda which is likely false (i.e. its people are regularly starving, they are super unhappy and always trying to escape to South Korea, etc). What made you interested in them and where are you learning about them?
Yes, you have correctly described the major dogmas of the Incel Theory, my question was mainly to inquire whether you acknowledge the artificial, modern nature of the incel problem. After all, there is some truth to how female liberation has given the females the power to choose their suitors, and how there's a certain genetic component to it. There's clearly sexual selection at work, although I'm not sure to what extent it is eugenic and/or dysgenic. Some may wax poetic about how female mind has not been molded by evolution during the civilisational stage of human history. What is certain, however, is that all traditional societies used to employ arranged marriage, hence the vast majority of those who become incel today would not have done so in the past.
Juche Korea is many things to me. Back in 2014, when I saw the video Humans Need Not Apply (about technological singularity), my youthful mind instantly went to the DPRK as an example of a country that would totally know how to deal with it. It's as if I instinctively relegate to them a role of the seat of intelligence on the planet, a true subject of history.
Of course, to the normies, Korea is literally Hitler. And they are right, Pyongyang seems to be the polar opposite of Jerusalem. Collectivism, militarism, totalitarianism, fanaticism... All forces focused on survival through the worship of their racial blood. I tend to compare them to the zealotry of worldwide Wahhabi Islam compressed into a neutron star of 25 mil. people. Another comparison would be an ennobled remnant of the Japanese Empire - I wouldn't say that to the Koreans themselves, of course, for their entire foundation is built on the tales of anti-Japanese struggle. But that is my impression - a far cry from calling it "Stalinist". (Although to be fair, the Jap songs seem to sound fairly unassuming, their military marches rather bland.)
According to their legend, Kim Jong Il was born on Paektusan, and Kim Il Sung liberated Korea in August 1945 with barely any outside help. Of course, if we're talking real history, the establishment of the DPRK is a fluke of history. Korea itself had long been lost, and lone zealots such as Kim Il Sung were an exception. It's a complicated tale - on the one hand, the Mongoloid race seemed to be at its peak in the Empire of Japan; on the other, it was thanks to the fight without hope in the frozen wilderness of Manchuria that the flame of Korea persisted long enough to be reborn, under the right conditions.
Finally, one should not forget racism. West and South Asians are ultimately swarthy savages mixed with neo-Christcucks. The rightful inheritor of the Aryan race ought to be the Mongoloids. Sure, they were on the brink of extinction once (and Japan will be known as East Korea some day), but both Korea and China have demonstrated miracles of survival through overcoming their weakness. The Meiji Restoration, the Cultural Revolution, the Kim Il Sung idea - all have achieved more spectacular feats than either the Anglo, Hitler or Marxism - which in every case failed to cast away the burden of the past (namely, German aggressiveness and Russian cultural capitulation). And the Koreans have successfully managed to pass their culture down the generations. Their meagre air force is best used as the fighters of culture war, and that's more important than Marxists may think.
Regarding your remark - I have no idea how Westerners can make up such stupid arguments (another being that Korea survived the 1990s due to [non-existent in reality] Chinese aid). The emigration rate from the southern region of the DPRK is orders of magnitude higher than from the norther part. And regarding gathering information - I sometimes watch propaganda via Phuong DPRK on YouTube, and used to listen to Andrei Lankov, a Russian Anglophone with soulless, beady eyes of a Marxist (he's likely factually correct, however).